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Obama Declares War On ‘Extremism’ – Are You An ‘Extremist’ According To His Definition?

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Do you know what an “extremist” is?  Barack Obama is speaking very boldly about the need to win the war against “extremists”, and he has announced plans to host a major global summit on “extremism” next month.  And on the surface that sounds great.  But precisely how are we supposed to determine whether someone is an “extremist” or not?  What criteria should we use?  As you will see below, your definition of an “extremist” may be far, far different from the definition that Barack Obama is using.  When you do a Google search, you will find that an “extremist” is defined as “a person who holds extreme or fanatical political or religious views, especially one who resorts to or advocates extreme action.”  According to Wikipedia, “extremism” is “an ideology (particularly in politics or religion), considered to be far outside the mainstream attitudes of a society or to violate common moral standards.  Extremism can take many forms, including political, religious and economic.”  Please notice that neither of those definitions uses the word violence.  In this day and age, you can be considered an “extremist” simply based on what you believe, and as you will see later in this article there are now tens of millions of Americans that are considered to be “extremists” and “potential terrorists” according to official U.S. government documents.

When you use the word “extremist”, you may have in your mind a picture of ISIS fighters or the terrorists from the Charlie Hebdo massacre.

But for elitists such as Barack Obama, the word “extremist” has a much broader meaning.  In recent years, it has become a code word for those that do not have an “enlightened” view of the world.  If your views on politics, religion or social issues are extremely different from the liberal, progressive views of “the mainstream” (as defined by the mainstream media and by “mainstream” politicians such as Barack Obama), then they consider you to be an extremist.

Early in the presidency of George W. Bush, we were told that Islamic terrorists were the enemy.  And so most of the country got behind the idea of the War on Terrorism.  But over the years that has morphed into a War on Extremism.  In fact, the Obama administration has gone so far as to remove almost all references to Islam from government terror training materials

Deputy U.S. Attorney General James Cole confirmed on Wednesday that the Obama administration was pulling back all training materials used for the law enforcement and national security communities, in order to eliminate all references to Islam that some Muslim groups have claimed are offensive.

“I recently directed all components of the Department of Justice to re-evaluate their training efforts in a range of areas, from community outreach to national security,” Cole told a panel at the George Washington University law school.

Now, much of the focus in law enforcement training materials is on “domestic extremists”.  We are being told that “domestic extremism” is just as great a threat to our national security as terror groups overseas are.

But exactly who are these “domestic extremists”?

Well, the truth is that you may be one of them.

I want to share with you a list that I have shared in a couple of previous articles.  It is a list of 72 types of Americans that are considered to be “extremists” or “potential terrorists” in official U.S. government documents.  This list will really give you a good idea of what Barack Obama means when he uses the word “extremist”.  Each of these 72 items is linked, so if you would like to go see the original source document for yourself, just click on the link.  As you can see, this list potentially includes most of the country…

1. Those that talk about “individual liberties”

2. Those that advocate for states’ rights

3. Those that want “to make the world a better place”

4. “The colonists who sought to free themselves from British rule”

5. Those that are interested in “defeating the Communists”

6. Those that believe “that the interests of one’s own nation are separate from the interests of other nations or the common interest of all nations”

7. Anyone that holds a “political ideology that considers the state to be unnecessary, harmful,or undesirable”

8. Anyone that possesses an “intolerance toward other religions”

9. Those that “take action to fight against the exploitation of the environment and/or animals”

10. “Anti-Gay”

11. “Anti-Immigrant”

12. “Anti-Muslim”

13. “The Patriot Movement”

14. “Opposition to equal rights for gays and lesbians”

15. Members of the Family Research Council

16. Members of the American Family Association

17. Those that believe that Mexico, Canada and the United States “are secretly planning to merge into a European Union-like entity that will be known as the ‘North American Union’”

18. Members of the American Border Patrol/American Patrol

19. Members of the Federation for American Immigration Reform

20. Members of the Tennessee Freedom Coalition

21. Members of the Christian Action Network

22. Anyone that is “opposed to the New World Order”

23. Anyone that is engaged in “conspiracy theorizing”

24. Anyone that is opposed to Agenda 21

25. Anyone that is concerned about FEMA camps

26. Anyone that “fears impending gun control or weapons confiscations”

27. The militia movement

28. The sovereign citizen movement

29. Those that “don’t think they should have to pay taxes”

30. Anyone that “complains about bias”

31. Anyone that “believes in government conspiracies to the point of paranoia”

32. Anyone that “is frustrated with mainstream ideologies”

33. Anyone that “visits extremist websites/blogs”

34. Anyone that “establishes website/blog to display extremist views”

35. Anyone that “attends rallies for extremist causes”

36. Anyone that “exhibits extreme religious intolerance”

37. Anyone that “is personally connected with a grievance”

38. Anyone that “suddenly acquires weapons”

39. Anyone that “organizes protests inspired by extremist ideology”

40. “Militia or unorganized militia”

41. “General right-wing extremist”

42. Citizens that have “bumper stickers” that are patriotic or anti-U.N.

43. Those that refer to an “Army of God”

44. Those that are “fiercely nationalistic (as opposed to universal and international in orientation)”

45. Those that are “anti-global”

46. Those that are “suspicious of centralized federal authority”

47. Those that are “reverent of individual liberty”

48. Those that “believe in conspiracy theories”

49. Those that have “a belief that one’s personal and/or national ‘way of life’ is under attack”

50. Those that possess “a belief in the need to be prepared for an attack either by participating in paramilitary preparations and training or survivalism”

51. Those that would “impose strict religious tenets or laws on society (fundamentalists)”

52. Those that would “insert religion into the political sphere”

53. Anyone that would “seek to politicize religion”

54. Those that have “supported political movements for autonomy”

55. Anyone that is “anti-abortion”

56. Anyone that is “anti-Catholic”

57. Anyone that is “anti-nuclear”

58. “Rightwing extremists”

59. “Returning veterans”

60. Those concerned about “illegal immigration”

61. Those that “believe in the right to bear arms”

62. Anyone that is engaged in “ammunition stockpiling”

63. Anyone that exhibits “fear of Communist regimes”

64. “Anti-abortion activists”

65. Those that are against illegal immigration

66. Those that talk about “the New World Order” in a “derogatory” manner

67. Those that have a negative view of the United Nations

68. Those that are opposed “to the collection of federal income taxes”

69. Those that supported former presidential candidates Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin and Bob Barr

70. Those that display the Gadsden Flag (“Don’t Tread On Me”)

71. Those that believe in “end times” prophecies

72. Evangelical Christians

Do you fit into any of those categories?

Personally, I fit into a couple dozen of them.

That is why alarm bells should go off whenever Barack Obama speaks of the need to crack down on “extremism”.

If Barack Obama wants to denounce Islamic terror, he should do so.  But because of his extreme political correctness, he goes out of his way to avoid any connection between Islam and terror.  Instead, he speaks of the need to recognize “Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings” and he insists that “the future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.”

Meanwhile, our liberties and freedoms are being eroded a little bit more with each passing day.  In the name of fighting “terrorism” or “extremism”, our government is constructing a Big Brother police state control grid all around us.  I like the way that Ron Paul described what is happening to us just the other day

If Americans were honest with themselves they would acknowledge that the Republic is no more. We now live in a police state. If we do not recognize and resist this development, freedom and prosperity for all Americans will continue to deteriorate. All liberties in America today are under siege.

It didn’t happen overnight. It took many years of neglect for our liberties to be given away so casually for a promise of security from the politicians. The tragic part is that the more security was promised — physical and economic — the less liberty was protected.

With cradle-to-grave welfare protecting all citizens from any mistakes and a perpetual global war on terrorism, which a majority of Americans were convinced was absolutely necessary for our survival, our security and prosperity has been sacrificed.

It was all based on lies and ignorance. Many came to believe that their best interests were served by giving up a little freedom now and then to gain a better life.

The trap was set. At the beginning of a cycle that systematically undermines liberty with delusions of easy prosperity, the change may actually seem to be beneficial to a few. But to me that’s like excusing embezzlement as a road to leisure and wealth — eventually payment and punishment always come due. One cannot escape the fact that a society’s wealth cannot be sustained or increased without work and productive effort. Yes, some criminal elements can benefit for a while, but reality always sets in.

Reality is now setting in for America and for that matter for most of the world. The piper will get his due even if “the children” have to suffer. The deception of promising “success” has lasted for quite a while. It was accomplished by ever-increasing taxes, deficits, borrowing, and printing press money. In the meantime the policing powers of the federal government were systematically and significantly expanded. No one cared much, as there seemed to be enough “gravy” for the rich, the poor, the politicians, and the bureaucrats.

The country that our forefathers founded is dying.

Now, individuals and organizations that attempt to restore the values that our founders once believed in so strongly are regarded as dangerous “extremists” that need to be watched carefully.

Sadly, most Americans don’t even realize what is happening to this nation.  As long as they are fed a constant diet of mindless entertainment, most Americans are perfectly content to let “the experts” do their thinking for them.

We are steamrolling toward oblivion, and most of the country is dead asleep.

So is there any hope for us?  Feel free to share what you think by posting a comment below…


Michael T. Snyder is a graduate of the McIntire School of Commerce at the University of Virginia and has a law degree and an LLM from the University of Florida Law School. He is an attorney that has worked for some of the largest and most prominent law firms in Washington D.C. and who now spends his time researching and writing and trying to wake the American people up. You can follow his work on The Economic Collapse blog, End of the American Dream and The Truth Wins. His new novel entitled “The Beginning Of The End” is now available on Amazon.com.

 

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Michael T. Snyder is a graduate of the McIntire School of Commerce at the University of Virginia and has a law degree and an LLM from the University of Florida Law School. He is an attorney that has worked for some of the largest and most prominent law firms in Washington D.C. and who now spends his time researching and writing and trying to wake the American people up. You can follow his work on The Economic Collapse blog, The Most Important News, End of the American Dream and The Truth Wins. His new novel entitled “The Beginning Of The End” is now available on Amazon.com.

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  • Jorge Cartaya

    Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.

    6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7 Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor. (Romans 13)

    WHAT is my point with posting this Scripture? The point is that, all governments, no matter how evil or corrupt, are put there by the sovereign God for a reason, and it is not our lot to fight or resist them. We are to be imitators of Paul, not Peter, who strikes out and cuts off the ear of the soldier coming to take away his Lord. No, we are to wait patiently for the time when ears will be healed and eyes opened. Our Lord Christ Jesus will be the One to correct the evils of this world when we comes in power and glory. It is not our lot to fight nor wrestle against these fleshly world powers, but to await Him and bear with the evils of the world. After all, it IS THESE VERY SAME EVILS which are perfecting the Body of Christ through the sufferings they inflict on us. These sufferings are producing endurance, patience, good character and wisdom in us, and they are all operated by the One Who controls and directs all for our ultimate benefit.

    • Adam Deskins

      You know that you are now considered a government extremest.

      • wandakate

        IF a person is not at least 5 or 10 of the ones on this list then he or she is probably dead!!!

        • Brad Dueringer

          Seriously, how could someone be considered human and not be defined by any of the beliefs on the list of 72

          • wandakate

            Does it look like they’re out to get just about everybody?

          • Brad Dueringer

            Yes

          • wandakate

            I don’t know what to do about it! Where is the answer. They wouldn’t impeach him, he’s still there (in power). Well, right now he’s on vacation in Hawaii for the holidays, however I have a hunch that when he gets back here, we may be in for a surprise.
            I think things are going to start reeving up here shortly.
            This may have been the last decent holiday that we will know…

          • Brad Dueringer

            My predictions for 2016: Tptb have had tons of “mass shootings” and they aren’t working to sway enough people against guns. Too many people are waking up to the false flags. So I believe they now are just going to move against gun ownership despite a lack of support in the numbers they want.

            The economy has been propped up for quite some time, ever since China stopped buying bonds. The debt has built to extreme levels and now large countries are moving away from the dollar being the world reserve currency and creating a world bank of their own.

            We will see the colapse after they create big restrictions on gun ownership and all indicators show they plan to enact gun restrictions after the holidays.

            So I think we can count on 2016 being the year everything goes to hell and we may see a civil war, martial law and maybe even a world war.

            I wish I had some precious metals ….I think we are going to need some form of currency other than dollars. Dollars may become somewhat worthless due to the inflation that will probably hit us hard next year.

          • wandakate

            If the dollar collapses, food prices will go sky high.
            You can’t eat precious metals.
            Many people say it’s food, water and the basics we’ll need plus our medicine.
            Have to get what ya need now while ya still can perhaps. I however live in a very small place and have not the room to store all of that, but for those who do, that’s the key.

          • Brad Dueringer

            Yes in the end run, precious metals will be worthless. But there will be a short window, assuming it gets really bad, where precious metals will jump drastically in value.

          • wandakate

            None of that for me. No silver, gold, copper or anything else.
            Just the BIG dog and the gun and the LORD and that should be enough, if not I’m outta here. I don’t really have anything of value, so at a time when the poop hits the fan, that may be a better position than having a lot, living in a huge house on the golf course.

          • Brad Dueringer

            My predictions for 2016: Tptb have had tons of “mass shootings” and they aren’t working to sway enough people against guns. Too many people are waking up to the false flags. So I believe they now are just going to move against gun ownership despite a lack of support in the numbers they want.

            The economy has been propped up for quite some time, ever since China stopped buying bonds. The debt has built to extreme levels and now large countries are moving away from the dollar being the world reserve currency and creating a world bank of their own.

            We will see the colapse after they create big restrictions on gun ownership and all indicators show they plan to enact gun restrictions after the holidays.

            So I think we can count on 2016 being the year everything goes to hell and we may see a civil war, martial law and maybe even a world war.

            I wish I had some prcious metals…I think we are going to need some form of currency other than dollars. Dollars may become somewhat worthless due to the inflation that will probably hit us hard next year.

          • wandakate

            Even though I think you are right, I pray you are not. But, I do know that sooner or later things will go down the tubes, it’s just a matter of time.
            I hope to be out of where I am and to where I am going by that time.
            GOD help us all.

          • Brad Dueringer

            It’s Obong’s last year so I expect his handlers to have him restrict guns drastically and then a financial collapse, martial law and a potential WWIII

          • Waykent

            Who is Obong?

          • Jake Spooz

            Your president, dumbáss.

          • Jake Spooz

            Declare war on Obama.

          • Jake Spooz

            Oops, just got banned from All News Pipeline, but you never report anyone because you are a pússy.

          • Waykent

            Please provide proof.

          • Jake Spooz

            You made the assertion, your burden to prove.

          • Jake Spooz

            Your worthless president, who I wish was in his grave.

      • Jorge Cartaya

        Yeah, I know. I’ve posted some very revealing articles on my FB as well, but it’s OK. This is our lot in life, to be hated for our love of the truth. It is just a part of our school of evil that we must all go through before we are brought back to God through the work of the cross. Those sons of stubbornness who disbelieve in persecute us in this life will also be brought back to God after their sinful natures die in the lake of fire. God will justify them, we don’t need to fight them nor worry about their fates, nor our own fates. If the government comes for me, it will be for my benefit, and God will always be with me. Have no fear, friends!

      • wandakate

        Everybody is a government extremist according to this long list of “evils”.

    • WhiteDragonKing

      Quoting peter: Yet,we must obey God rather than men.

    • Shawn Chapman

      I couldn’t be more simply, and violently in disagreement. It is unbelievable the foolishness that some people are willing to spout in the name of their version of the Bible. The very verses from Romans that you use define government instituted by God:
      1). Rulers hold no terror for those who DO RIGHT, but for those who do wrong.
      2). For the one in authority is God’s servant for your Good.

      So when a wicked, unjust, tyrannical authority is a terror to those who do good (and rewards those who do wrong), and does not act as God’s servant for our good, are we really to obey them as we would “God’s servant”?

      I reject your stupid argument; and you can keep your closet-Christian pietism.

      • Paladin

        Not only that

        BUT TO whom IT IS DUE

    • Paladin

      NOPE
      TRY again
      This time with REASON
      and looking and considering
      EVERY WORD
      not only in harmony with the text you think you read but as well as the WHOLE of scripture.

      Simply – you’re in severe error.

      But the word of יהוה was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.

    • gumply

      Jorge, you are so wrong! God’s Torah (instruction) is supreme whether you like it or not or whether you understand it or not. You are only to obey the government if they are aligned with God’s word and if you think that are leaders are walking in the truths of God’s word than I feel very sorry for you and the people that your ignorance might effect. You need to study all of God’s word not just the part you think is appropriate. Pastor Chuck Baldwin has his own site and he has written a thorough article as well as a sermon that you can listen to on Romans that you are quoting from and I think you need to read that article as well as listen to his sermon. May our Father in heaven give you understanding and Bless you.

  • WhiteDragonKing

    This is extreme.

    • Paladin

      Jesus was EXTREME to MANY people and beliefs of his day, then again those who love the truth, he was / is a resonant harmony of equity in love.

      • WhiteDragonKing

        Maybe that’s why he got banned from school.lol that was a jab at obama’s move.

  • MindWarrior

    Most of the country is not dead asleep, but essentially brain dead. I’m surprised the USA has lasted this long. If an EMP took out the electronics, 10-15% would probably suicide in a matter of days.

    • Brad Dueringer

      I agree, people would freak out if they didn’t have their TV and Facebook.

    • Ranger_Ric

      That would be a wonderful result! Actually, the best part of what is coming is going to be the death of useless people who are unable to take care of themselves.

  • Call me an extremists then, I not only think the governments as crooked as a slot machine I know it’s even worse. I will wear there label proudly FU Obama you fit in your own extremist ideology but your the Muslim extremist side.

  • David McElroy

    This list includes virtually all non-communist Americans. This list makes it clear that unless you believe and comply with every dictate of government, regardless of the US Constitution, morality or common sense, unless you have no values of your own and have surrendered your ability to think and act independently, you are an “extremist”. Be very afraid, America. Be strong. Be vigilant. Be prepared. The battle is joined. I will stand with Christ for liberty. How will you stand?

    • Paladin

      Does Christ expect you to be Armed ?

      When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace:

    • wandakate

      DAVID…you know JESUS said, IF you deny me, I will deny you before the FATHER who is in heaven. We are to do all these things and put on the whole armor of GOD, to stand up in that evil day to the wiles of the devil…

  • Shawn Chapman

    Fun game! I could only check 46 myself. Of course, even if you do not fit one of the 72 categories on “the list” yourself, if you know, or associate, with anyone on the list you are guilty by association. So who knows for sure.

    • Paladin

      Can you SPELL
      Misdial ?

  • Millennium

    You cant get any more un-American than Obama. This guy proves day after day that he is the enemy and greatest threat to the world and yet millions of people still think he is so great. The corruption in D.C. is mind boggling and if you don’t think We The People are going to have to do something about it…..your crazy.

    • Paladin

      The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one… which kingdom does BamBam belong?

  • Millennium

    If We The People dont stop our tyrannical government and soon, whos to say the East doesnt build a huge coalition to come to the the U.S. and stop them (U.S. Gov.) by force? That would end our country by the way.
    All the destabilization that has been done by the White House in North Africa the Middle East and now Europe has put a huge cross hair on our country and 300 million of us didnt give the consent for these actions. Hows that hope and change working out for you now?

  • Paladin

    The ONLY and TRUE but despised and disguised line item which is the objective target of this demonic NWO wannabe system is the #72 last one and only one – 72. Evangelical Christians.

    Whether it be in an overtly religious dress or in the concealed religion of Politics; And marvel NOT; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

  • gumply

    I am in bad shape because I fit almost all of them. The other day I read a couple of stories about the outrage in Poland and the immigration / refugee issue. 150 thousand plus turned out for the demonstration and it made me wonder what on earth is wrong with us. The liar in chief in the people’s house has been committing treason since 2008 and not a thing has been done about it. I am not concerned about the liars, cheats and perverts in disease city but I am in disbelief about the non action of the citizenry.

    • diane

      Most who would protest in person have to work.

      • patriotmame

        There comes a time when a person must sacrifice something to stand up for what they believe.

  • Pale Writer

    Some characteristic traits on that list are double jeopardy. So the whole idea and entire list needs thrown out,scrapped and then started over till it’s correct.

    How about starting here? “Obama has announced plans to host a major global summit on “extremism” next month.”

    Now that’s extreme! Obama will have to make a huge carbon footprint to fly there. It will require many others to do the same thing while supposedly adding to them destroying our earth’s climate,even politically,religiously,governmentally,militarily and environmentally while those True Extremists with all pens and phones meet at that global summit to really discus the reasons why they aren’t as good at anything as we are who don’t have all their money,power,fame or prestige from Hell,for more Hell based on Hell to sell Hell and collect everyone into their Totalitarian Global Hell State that they have had all of already for the last 75 years and now they aren’t getting anymore chances or opportunities in any real places with real people at pushing or promoting even more Hell. Because the bottom line is that Hell and Bad as all Hell Policy is extreme! And they that make it and do it are at the head and arms of Authoritarian Collectivists Fascists Extremism which is nothing more then what is being fought in the middle east against tyrant dictators and extremist tyrant dictator scum’s proxies.

  • GustAdlph

    I belong to the Federation for American Immigration Reform. I am also pro-life, pro-military and anti-same sex marriage. If that makes me an extremist, I am proud of it.

  • EarthQuake

    …HELLo John and Jane ”Q” for Quantum. I am Obozo The Clown. You shall not surely die. Have a nice day.

    This has been a message from ”out of the loop” in the ”Beltway”, a required test of the borderless criminal 666 Central Banker EAS…

    P.S. The ”Universal Truth” is not a choice. Every knee shall bow. Resistance is futile.

    Merry Christmas.
    …in the name of Yahshua fear not. Oh, and this really isn’t Obozo The Clown, but don’t tell anyone. We like to have fun with retarded Obozo Clowns. The Antichrist bastards are a constant joke, a lethal sick and twisted joke, but, if you really really try, it is possible to eek out some kind of humor. One drop of water in Hell goes a long way you know, and it’s not ”as if” it is not ”as it was in the days of Noah”.

    P.S.S
    The ”Tree Of Knowledge” has always meant humans were out of the loop. So take the Beltway noose off your neck and live as a Saint of Christ. The lie has always been lethal and the liar a murderous fool.

    Ho ho ho

    In agreement the gift of Salvation is declaring the risen mercy proven and confirmed. That is ”The Word” sealed upon the Saints. Yahshua is risen.

    Obozo Clowns are fallen, sold out, Hell bound whores that just ”want” to ride The Beast straight to Hell. They are married to their own image and are forever sealed and condemned. The second death shall not ”until death do us part” workout for the dumb bastards. Take heart in knowing, no Saint is ever lost. The Bride is not ”The Bridegroom”, and she definitely does not dawn the 3 Fingers Of Justice Kennedy’s Third Reich government issue combat boots and a Dog Tag around her neck with the name and number of The Borderless Soulless 666 Citizen’s United Corporate Algo Beast confirmed by her kiss
    .

  • Sorry, Im not PC.

    Why havent we fought the war against His Extremism yet? Our elected officials sure arent doing it for us, We put them in and they spit on us and I think we are going to have to get ugly with them as a reminder on who they are working (or supposed the be working) for!
    Enough of this nonsense from these Traitors!

    • wandakate

      That’s not the first time that someone has suggested doing that, but nothing seems to have been done as of yet. It’s usually all talk and no action. But you know that old saying, Actions are louder than words.

  • dan from ohio

    Since Obama’s list makes me a domestic threat then let it start …I would rather fight as a free man then kneel as a slave to this POS!

  • blagostwin

    It’s an all encompassing list, how could anyone not find themselves on a list like this? There’s no way our for the average descent American. So let the list be dammed.